(Continued debate of future consoles)
Douglas Leach: They just want fun.
Ywil: Consoles have to run lower end parts to keep cost down. You can’t put an $1800 rig inside of a console and sell it for $400
Michael Eng: I think that casual games play games on Facebook rather than going out to buy consoles.
Sei Isler: True. But like I stated, the Ouya is going to be really low end with low budget graphic games like Minecraft, and people are pumped up about that. That system defeats the whole “what system has the best technology” thing.
Ywil: The homebrew will be the only big draw for the Ouya.
Douglas Leach: Agreed.
Chris Keeling: Since it will be running Android, it will be subject to a lot of hax.
Sei Isler: They are designing it for hackers.
Chris Keeling: I think the Ouya could easily be eclipsed by having an HDMI output (or adapter) from phone or pad and plugging a controller into it or using it as the controller
Ywil: I won’t compete with the big 3 and PCs, but I imagine it will have its own cult following of homebrew gamers.
Douglas Leach: I just think the market will be too crowded with what, five or six consoles?
Chris Keeling: Like the early Wii, the open platform will generate a lot of trash games, making people wary of what they buy.
Douglas Leach: Only some will survive and it will probably be the big three.
Jeff Z: I agree.
Chris Keeling: I’m by far a PC gamer, but I do play a lot on console. It has to have great launch games, unusual features (like Kinect), and a relatively low startup cost to get me in though. I didn’t get the 360 until it came down below $200, and I rarely buy games at their initial $60 cost. $30 is already too much for a game when I can buy 15 games for $40 on Steam’s summer sale!
Sei Isler: Yes, I bought a ton of games on steam during the sale!!!! Reaxxion89 is my username.
Ywil: Steam makes everyone else look bad.
Sei Isler: I still don’t understand how they can afford to just drop prices down 85 percent though. It just amazes me.
Chris Keeling: Although the top games make tons of money (the last CoD made around $600M in 5 days), they don’t offer much originality or repeatable gameplay (except in multiplayer). Games like Skyrim that are very good are still not as economically successful as smaller games that sell more copies like CoD.
Chris Keeling: I also heard Steambox was an unofficial project. Knowing Valve, it might never come out, or not for years (they won’t release until it’s perfect!). But if it comes, I’m in – as long as I don’t have to use horrible console controllers with it.
Michael Eng: Ha. Mr. Keeling some of us like those console controllers.
Chris Keeling: Personally, I’d rather just have a Steam interface on other devices, like my iPhone or whatever. Or share my Skyrim license across my PC and console.
Ywil: I haven’t played my Xbox since the power supply blew out, and I can honestly say I haven’t missed that controller one bit.
Michael Eng: Well I grew up playing consoles so I like the controllers more than the keyboard and mouse.
Chris Keeling: Console controllers are fine for lots of games, but not for FPS (by far my favorite kind of game). I do play a lot of RPGs and other games on console though.
Sei Isler: I agree. Professor, you are now my favorite PC gamer friend. Ha.
Jeff Z: I have also found out that FPS games are getting better on the PC as time goes on.
Douglas Leach: My question is why do consoles adopt a single controller? Why not two, three or more, depending on the game?
Chris Keeling: Microsoft created an API that interfaced Xbox gamers and PC gamers for games like Halo and discovered that the worst PC players beat the best console players easily due to the more ergonomic and flexible controls of mouse and keyboard over controller. So they shelved the project.
Sei Isler: Yeah!
Michael Eng: I just can’t play games on keyboard and mouse too much.
Chris Keeling: I have… <counts> two PCs and three laptops, two smartphones, a pad, and a handheld. Sheesh. But I play games mostly on the PC still.
Ywil: I played on the same PC since ’06, running a dual core and a GTX470. I have played everything but BF3 without problems.
Chris Keeling: I got my first computer before any of you were born, ha! But even before my first mouse-driven computer (1989), I had a joystick that was less complex than current controllers, but still very effective for simpler games. With the complexity of the console controllers increasing, I like them less and less.